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of state, john kerry, and chuck hagel, which he has gone a lot of flak for it, to the secretary of defense? >> those are promising choices. john kerry may finally liberate himself with a push from chuck a goal. they are going to have to take on the military-industrial complex and reduce those mass of weapons systems that were designed for a soviet-peristyle hostility like the f-22 and nuclear subs. they're going have to cut the military budget down from its $800 billion, and get out of afghanistan and iraq. and whether they have the chemistry and the political fortitude to do so, it remains to be seen. but i think they are a better choice than their predecessors. i think john kerry will be better than hillary clinton, who had to be macho all the time. and panetta, chuck hagel will be better than panetta, who was kind of a fill in. and spent weekends back in california where he really wants to retire. there is a little promise there. but again, it requires the resurgence of mass demonstrations in washington this spring to develop a convergent policy from the militarization of foreign-policy
of the gun. they made models hillier number, nomenclature, describe kerry's that gun dealers are required to keep in iraq. , that allows atf in its state and local partners to conduct a crime gun traces and that's what they did. they trace back luck nine-millimeter to a woman named chandra. during that investigation, they learned chandra had bought a couple other guns turned up in crimes over the years. atf in chicago police officers interviewed chandra and she said after a while that she brought the gun for her boyfriend, samuel cox. she's a female cox is a convicted felon. can buy the guns themselves, so she bought them for them. police david samuel cox was an enforcer for the black gangster disciples in chicago. frankly, chandra was in a little trouble, so she was becoming more and more cooperative and she gave the atf agent in chicago police detect this key information. she said about eight years ago, two girlfriends came inside with how your car on blackstone avenue in a shooting. the next day we received a telephone call from somebody and they told us if we told anyone what we sow,
john kerry. eight years later, not one gay question came up. the gay issue never came up as a wedge issue, eight years later. i think that's also a great sign of progress how far this country has come on the issue of -- on the issue of gay rights in to toe, not just same sex marriage, but should gays and lesbians be treated equally under the law, as the president said in this is inaugural address and to add on something joe just said, i'm not sure in 2014 democrats in swing districts will be running away from the president's inaugural address, i'll be curious what the president says in his state of the union address, that's where he gets down to the nitty-gritty of policy descriptions for the country. >> one of the other quick moments, i was thinking about the defense of marriage act, the fact it's coming up before the supreme court and the president gave stonewall unprecedent ed mention in the inaugural address. you had story the other day in the "new york times" about a gay couple, two women soldiers in afghanistan, who needed post-trauma counseling and went -- their chaplains tol
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